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	<description>Irreverant yet strangely satisfying commentary on housing and economic change</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Foreclosure Fraud Fantasy by JeffNielson</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeffNielson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 21:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree with the comments.

Now that it appears to be a &quot;done deal&quot;, it&#039;s quite obviously nothing but a SELL-OUT of ordinary Americans - and a free pass for the bankster-criminals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree with the comments.</p>
<p>Now that it appears to be a &#8220;done deal&#8221;, it&#8217;s quite obviously nothing but a SELL-OUT of ordinary Americans &#8211; and a free pass for the bankster-criminals.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Foreclosure Fraud Fantasy by Guy Fawkes</title>
		<link>http://blog.ml-implode.com/2012/02/the-foreclosure-fraud-fantasy/comment-page-1/#comment-3461</link>
		<dc:creator>Guy Fawkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I just say I admire a good rant. Fantastic!

You are correct sir. This whole process has nothing to do with the &quot;poor defenseless home owner&quot; and everything to do with people not wanting to go to jail.

Banks would have cut a check for many times that amount if it kept them from being prosecuted for fraud. 

This pitance amount will do nothing for the underwater homeowner. By all account $20K will not make the average $50K homeowner any more solvent. In fact it just made EVERYONES house $20K less equity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I just say I admire a good rant. Fantastic!</p>
<p>You are correct sir. This whole process has nothing to do with the &#8220;poor defenseless home owner&#8221; and everything to do with people not wanting to go to jail.</p>
<p>Banks would have cut a check for many times that amount if it kept them from being prosecuted for fraud. </p>
<p>This pitance amount will do nothing for the underwater homeowner. By all account $20K will not make the average $50K homeowner any more solvent. In fact it just made EVERYONES house $20K less equity.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Foreclosure Fraud Fantasy by dee preston</title>
		<link>http://blog.ml-implode.com/2012/02/the-foreclosure-fraud-fantasy/comment-page-1/#comment-3459</link>
		<dc:creator>dee preston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If these assholes can&#039;t find the culprits call me. This diabolical is disgusting to its core. They have ruined our LAND records and get off without any jail time again. Just think if WE the people did any thing remotely close to these felonies. You are correct- there&#039;s not a good lawyer out there any where. If there were, there would have been a landslide of free homes. The 2000$ to people who lost their home is insane!  They all need to go to jail and it sounds like a class action to me. The more they cover this up the more amunition we have for the class action of the century. They (AG&#039;s) all need to be recalled and arrested for treason upon the people. If you need help with a real investigation we r ready and have enough information to jail them all. Dee. 561-389-9339</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If these assholes can&#8217;t find the culprits call me. This diabolical is disgusting to its core. They have ruined our LAND records and get off without any jail time again. Just think if WE the people did any thing remotely close to these felonies. You are correct- there&#8217;s not a good lawyer out there any where. If there were, there would have been a landslide of free homes. The 2000$ to people who lost their home is insane!  They all need to go to jail and it sounds like a class action to me. The more they cover this up the more amunition we have for the class action of the century. They (AG&#8217;s) all need to be recalled and arrested for treason upon the people. If you need help with a real investigation we r ready and have enough information to jail them all. Dee. 561-389-9339</p>
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		<title>Comment on Deadbeats ‘Bailing Out’ Deadbeats by JeffNielson</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeffNielson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sherwood, you&#039;re into two TOTALLY separate issues here - so let me separate them.

When it comes to HOLDING precious metals, I firmly believe that physical bullion is the ONLY way to go - for a multitude of reasons. Perhaps moving to the top of the list of reasons is &quot;confiscation&quot;. If (when) bullion confiscation takes place it will START with every ounce of bullion held in an &quot;account&quot; or &quot;ETF&quot;.

As for the separate issue of going BACK to some sort of precious metals-backed economy, that is simply MUCH too complex a subject to BEGIN to address in a comment.

Suffice it to say that there are NO valid arguments against returning to an economy which uses REAL &quot;money&quot; - instead of fraudulent paper currencies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sherwood, you&#8217;re into two TOTALLY separate issues here &#8211; so let me separate them.</p>
<p>When it comes to HOLDING precious metals, I firmly believe that physical bullion is the ONLY way to go &#8211; for a multitude of reasons. Perhaps moving to the top of the list of reasons is &#8220;confiscation&#8221;. If (when) bullion confiscation takes place it will START with every ounce of bullion held in an &#8220;account&#8221; or &#8220;ETF&#8221;.</p>
<p>As for the separate issue of going BACK to some sort of precious metals-backed economy, that is simply MUCH too complex a subject to BEGIN to address in a comment.</p>
<p>Suffice it to say that there are NO valid arguments against returning to an economy which uses REAL &#8220;money&#8221; &#8211; instead of fraudulent paper currencies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Deadbeats ‘Bailing Out’ Deadbeats by JeffNielson</title>
		<link>http://blog.ml-implode.com/2012/02/deadbeats-bailing-out-deadbeats/comment-page-1/#comment-3457</link>
		<dc:creator>JeffNielson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Great article, but what about solutions?&quot;

Dixiebrick, there ARE no good solutions. This is the WORST mess that has ever been made of a nation&#039;s housing market - by a factor of ten.

Lowering borrowing costs at this point is nothing but an irrelevant bandaid. It&#039;s NOT going to rescue MILLIONS of mortgage VICTIMS who are 20% underwater, 30%, or even more.

The ONLY measure which would help to fix this market (other than simply FORECLOSING on 10-15 MILLION American families) is to pay-down mortgage principals (across the board) by approximately 20%. It would likely cost somewhere between $1.5 TRILLION and $2 TRILLION to do so.

It&#039;s that, or just watch this market BURN (for another 20 years or so)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Great article, but what about solutions?&#8221;</p>
<p>Dixiebrick, there ARE no good solutions. This is the WORST mess that has ever been made of a nation&#8217;s housing market &#8211; by a factor of ten.</p>
<p>Lowering borrowing costs at this point is nothing but an irrelevant bandaid. It&#8217;s NOT going to rescue MILLIONS of mortgage VICTIMS who are 20% underwater, 30%, or even more.</p>
<p>The ONLY measure which would help to fix this market (other than simply FORECLOSING on 10-15 MILLION American families) is to pay-down mortgage principals (across the board) by approximately 20%. It would likely cost somewhere between $1.5 TRILLION and $2 TRILLION to do so.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s that, or just watch this market BURN (for another 20 years or so)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Deadbeats ‘Bailing Out’ Deadbeats by admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 15:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sherwood, I know you didn&#039;t ask me, but your comment contains many good points and questions so I thought I&#039;d weigh in.

One thing you could do is make it *optional* to receive a portion of pay in coin forms of US legal tender.  Then subtract the acquisition costs of the coinage from the payout.  That way the recipient pays, not the business.  

For example, say you have to pay a $2000 (Federal Reserve Notes) paycheck, but the worker opts to be paid in silver eagles.  Say the all-in costs of acquiring each silver eagle is $40; so you can order 50 of them and pay the employee $50 face value in silver.  Your business would list the difference of $1950 as an expense.

There shouldn&#039;t be too much disruption since you could just have the coins shipped to the worker.  I would imagine most would not want every single paycheck in this fashion... just the portion they plan on keeping for savings.

As far as the bigger picture, I agree a federal gold standard is logistically easier, for a variety of reasons.  But it isn&#039;t required.   It can all be done privately, especially now that we have a digital banking system.  For example, one entrepreneur is starting a gold-backed debit service (essentially, a checking-only bank) with accounts 100%-backed by gold, in the wake of Utah&#039;s recent law expanding the monetary scope of gold and silver:  

http://www.dgcmagazine.com/blog/index.php/2011/05/23/craig-franco-of-utah-opens-gold-and-silver-depository-go-shopping-with-gold-backed-money/

So, one can &quot;put their own gold&quot; in a banking system &quot;compatible&quot; account which recognizes the gold&#039;s value at 100% backing, and still be able to make FRN dollar-denominated purchases, integrated with the current electronic banking system.

Really, not much more is needed than this, when one distinguishes between the very different uses of money as (electronic) currency and a store of value.

In theory, it would be easy to even transact in bitcoins, and save balances in gold, provided trustworthy gold depositories such as this one (there are others as well, such as BullionVault or GoldMoney, but they are less integrated with the current payments system).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sherwood, I know you didn&#8217;t ask me, but your comment contains many good points and questions so I thought I&#8217;d weigh in.</p>
<p>One thing you could do is make it *optional* to receive a portion of pay in coin forms of US legal tender.  Then subtract the acquisition costs of the coinage from the payout.  That way the recipient pays, not the business.  </p>
<p>For example, say you have to pay a $2000 (Federal Reserve Notes) paycheck, but the worker opts to be paid in silver eagles.  Say the all-in costs of acquiring each silver eagle is $40; so you can order 50 of them and pay the employee $50 face value in silver.  Your business would list the difference of $1950 as an expense.</p>
<p>There shouldn&#8217;t be too much disruption since you could just have the coins shipped to the worker.  I would imagine most would not want every single paycheck in this fashion&#8230; just the portion they plan on keeping for savings.</p>
<p>As far as the bigger picture, I agree a federal gold standard is logistically easier, for a variety of reasons.  But it isn&#8217;t required.   It can all be done privately, especially now that we have a digital banking system.  For example, one entrepreneur is starting a gold-backed debit service (essentially, a checking-only bank) with accounts 100%-backed by gold, in the wake of Utah&#8217;s recent law expanding the monetary scope of gold and silver:  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.dgcmagazine.com/blog/index.php/2011/05/23/craig-franco-of-utah-opens-gold-and-silver-depository-go-shopping-with-gold-backed-money/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dgcmagazine.com/blog/index.php/2011/05/23/craig-franco-of-utah-opens-gold-and-silver-depository-go-shopping-with-gold-backed-money/</a></p>
<p>So, one can &#8220;put their own gold&#8221; in a banking system &#8220;compatible&#8221; account which recognizes the gold&#8217;s value at 100% backing, and still be able to make FRN dollar-denominated purchases, integrated with the current electronic banking system.</p>
<p>Really, not much more is needed than this, when one distinguishes between the very different uses of money as (electronic) currency and a store of value.</p>
<p>In theory, it would be easy to even transact in bitcoins, and save balances in gold, provided trustworthy gold depositories such as this one (there are others as well, such as BullionVault or GoldMoney, but they are less integrated with the current payments system).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Deadbeats ‘Bailing Out’ Deadbeats by sherwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>sherwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m interested in your opinion on whether holding gold/silver in investment accounts is sufficiently viable or if you believe you need to &quot;physically&quot; own the metals.  As a small business owner, it&#039;s hard to imagine paying my people (especially remote workers) in gold/silver coins.  I think transitioning to a gold/silver coin economy would be so hugely disruptive, that simply putting our currency back on the gold standard would be far easier and make way more sense and avoid most of the armegeddon scenarios floated around.  Would you agree with that assessment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m interested in your opinion on whether holding gold/silver in investment accounts is sufficiently viable or if you believe you need to &#8220;physically&#8221; own the metals.  As a small business owner, it&#8217;s hard to imagine paying my people (especially remote workers) in gold/silver coins.  I think transitioning to a gold/silver coin economy would be so hugely disruptive, that simply putting our currency back on the gold standard would be far easier and make way more sense and avoid most of the armegeddon scenarios floated around.  Would you agree with that assessment?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Deadbeats ‘Bailing Out’ Deadbeats by dixiebrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>dixiebrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here, here.  Great article, but what about solutions?  I have contended that those who are creditworthy should be allowed to borrow at the same rate as the banks plus a point to set a new base that can be attractive to investors and as riskier borrowers get in line they are charged by risk. Who gets hurt?, the bankers but so what they have had it good enough and it is time to let them suffer some. Peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here, here.  Great article, but what about solutions?  I have contended that those who are creditworthy should be allowed to borrow at the same rate as the banks plus a point to set a new base that can be attractive to investors and as riskier borrowers get in line they are charged by risk. Who gets hurt?, the bankers but so what they have had it good enough and it is time to let them suffer some. Peace</p>
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		<title>Comment on Exposing Silver Mythology, Part I by Delia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Delia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 00:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading this makes me think the CFTC must be a government entity. I see no private entities twisting numbers as vigorously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading this makes me think the CFTC must be a government entity. I see no private entities twisting numbers as vigorously.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Trading Commodities Bankruptcies&#8221; by Gonzalo Lira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gonzalo Lira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 17:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn! You&#039;re right: The Duke brothers would have been right as rain in today&#039;s crony-corrupt environment. 

This is Financial Devolution: We are returning to a state of nature. 

GL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn! You&#8217;re right: The Duke brothers would have been right as rain in today&#8217;s crony-corrupt environment. </p>
<p>This is Financial Devolution: We are returning to a state of nature. </p>
<p>GL</p>
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